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Debra Shushan's avatar

Thanks for having Haris and me on for this important conversation, Waj! Thanks also for encouraging your subscribers to subscribe to my Substack, The Debrief. Very generous and much appreciated.

Emily B's avatar

As a proud J streeter, it warms my heart to see a Muslim and a Jew who are so knowledgeable and communicate so well.

Debra Shushan's avatar

Thanks, @Emily B! I hope you’ll subscribe to my Substack (if already have, thank you!) and share with other J Streeters who may not have heard that I’m now over here. Lots of though-provoking conversations and enlightening columns to come on The Debrief — and I’d love to have my J Streeters here with me.

Emily B's avatar

That doesn't mean I'm not heart-broken, furious, and terrified by the content.

Adfero Affero's avatar

* Very interesting conversation.

Listening the next day was struck by Haris saying not against Zionism but Gaza...etc.

Amy Williams's avatar

My god you work so hard. Thank you Waj!!!!

Hit the streets people! Let it be heard this injustice in Palestine has to stop now!

Emily B's avatar

Waj, do you ever sleep?

Carl Selfe's avatar

Here are 100 protest signs. More are coming, and these are being improved every day, so sign up for more.

This moment demands protest. To each it should be unmistakable—urgent and morally unassailable. I speak for justice, duty, and shared humanity. Act now. We must protect the disadvantaged. Rise. We have many protests to do. Good trouble. Restack these 100 signs to spread the wealth. Others need to be armed.

https://hotbuttons.substack.com/p/100-free-protest-signs?r=3m1bs

Elizabeth McIlvaine's avatar

Great guests and great conversation. Why can’t the politicians understand what is so clearly explained by your guests? Money in politics.

Aline Libassi's avatar

Thank you for having these guests. It makes me crazy as an American Jew to hear about the administration's "concern" with Jews and anti-semitism. You are correct in how Trump, Miller, et al are using the Jews as an excuse to do their dirty work at Columbia, Harvard, and other elite universities based on "anti-Semitic" or "anti-Muslim" sympathies.

Cee1405151_123's avatar

¹The Montgomery Bus Boycott was ignored too. I haven't been in Target, WalMart, and other opponents, nor ordered from Amazon since it was called to boycott.

²The answers:

a) to get through this, b) to get over this, c) to get around this, d) to get by this, e) to get from under this, - is in the blueprint of history- that's why they want to change; erase; and not teach true history.( speak and listen to persons who've survived under then come to the u.s.a to escape the authoritarian rule )

Form barter communities and groups to trade with one another in goods and services.

Gather with and contribute to collective planning of meals with friends, neighbors, community and family. ( if all you have are one item make that the contribution so you can gather to receive in the meal.(daily or weekly)

Start consuming one meal a day and or smaller portions of food. Create struggle meals that can fill the void of an empty stomach.

Oppression is nothing new: The poor, and or immigrant and minority communities have always had to struggle; to find a way; to make a way; to figure it out - so take heed from their lead.

Beth Fitzpatrick's avatar

EXCELLENT! Thank you to all for the education!!!!

Pamela J Detwiler's avatar

Waj and Allison, I have to wonder if the alleged attack on Big Balls was orchestrated to give Trump an excuse to take over law enforcement in DC. Otherwise, he wouldn't even care.

Mary's avatar

This excellent, thank you!

JazzPaw's avatar

But Biden and Democrats kept sending our tax money to Bibi to commit genocide and undermine rule-of-law. Lots of complaining about Republicans but why did Democrats allow this to happen?

Sandra D Rind's avatar

There is no forever power with these regimes they will fall eventually and spectacularly.

Vel Santic's avatar

Greenblatt had willfully turned a blind eye to eVIlonmusk's sieg heil gestures (more than once) upon tRumputin's inauguration. that's when I definitely saw that greenblatt is not credible.

Vel Santic's avatar

also, it's important to emphasize that both terrorist putin-fsb-kgb-"russian" orthodox church of russia and tRump-"evangelicals" of USA both manipulate and instrumentalize both the kahanist and jihadist terrorists in Near East thusly perpetuating their "clashes of civilizations" apocalyptic "rapture", similar to the crusaders of the past.

Therefore, both Arabs/Palestinians and Jews/Israelis be wise, smart and cooperate between the two of yourselves for peace 'cause the russian-american crusaders want you both dead. So, don't be stupid! Smarten up and cooperate for peace and coexistence for all!

Vel Santic's avatar

Greenblatt has willfully confounded kahanism which is what the netanyahu-smotrich regime is, with Zionism in general. Jonathan Greenblatt is either pretending to be a moron or is really a moron if he can't or doesn't want to sharply discern these two things.

On the other side, too many generalized antiIsraelists have been counterproductively confounding the two mentioned notions, too, thusly playing into kahanists' traps.

Full support for the Interfaith (whether Muslim, the autochtonous Semitic-Christian i.e. whether Palestinian or Aramaic/Assyrian/Syriac/Lebanese or Jewish/Samaritan or Druze...) and Inter-ethnic Palestinian and Israeli and/or Jewish dialogues because only the peaceful and reasonable of Palestinians and Israelis and/or Jews and all other autochtonous Levantine, Canaanite, Near-Eastern people can stop this too long-taking mayhem and create a just peace; have been saying it my entire life and it all comes to that!!!

Rune Andre Bergtun's avatar

Nethanyahu have blocked ALL hostage deals according to this article:

"We later found out that Hamas had offered on October 9 or 10 to release all the civilian hostages in exchange for the IDF not entering the Strip, but the government rejected the offer.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/

Allison Greenhut's avatar

Once again, a great conversation!! You keep hitting the nail on the head with Christian Zionist. As an anti Zionist Jew, I really feel seen here. Thank you.

Debra Shushan's avatar

Thanks, Allison! I'm going to do some deep diving into Christian Zionism on my Substack, The Debrief. I hope you'll consider subscribing and tune in!

Brigitte Fisher's avatar

And Mike Huckabee, that is an insult to any country

Just look at his daughter she’s a crazy one too. She’s running Arkansas

into the ground.

Cee1405151_123's avatar

The ¹crazies, the ²zealots, the ³extremists, the ⁴fanatics, the ⁵lawless are trying to run rough shod and you have to: stand your ground- keep your truth, keep your joy(s) keep your composer, keep your sanity- keep your sanctity of your humanity, stay in connection to the earth, and to the ancestral divine; those same 5 elements of "imbalance are attempting" in todays time to overpower your will ( they / it will not win ) like they attempted on the Native American and the Black American and you too must "never ever" be afraid to persevere.

The Ancestral Divine is with you and shall guide and protect you again and again as it has from time in memoriam.

No trouble lasts always- the 1st shall be the last and the last shall be the 1st.

Vel Santic's avatar

This! It's a must to resist bigotry in one's own religion/faith-country-nationality-ethnicity-race etc... and expect the same from others' religion/faith-country-nationality-ethnicity-race etc.... To insist on mutual fairness, universal justice and Declaration on Human Rights.

To recognize timely the destructive forces, internal or external, of injustice and to incapacitate such negative forces.

To cooperate with the European Union and NATO because they are the best, although not perfect (nothing is always perfect but better!!!) existing shields that protect humans from evil forces of bigoted and antidemocratic regimes!

Cee1405151_123's avatar

Yes... the only way forward is a "balance and coexistence."

Many a adversarial nation have survived by its borders and existed neighborly in respect of a mutual coexistence.

(the United States of North America) had become to the world a beacon of hopes and a destiny of peace and a new beginning throughout its existence.

The true greatness and the superpower of the u.s. is its diversity of "global" ethnicities, faiths, cultures, languages and even ideologies.

The supremacist have been in the u.s. since its inception but those rational and balanced of and among them have understood that if "one group fails - all shall fail"

The ONLY reasons the u.s. won the war WAS its unique embodiment of DIVERSITY: coming from - The Native American code talkers using their ancestral language that could not be deciphered by the enemy. The skill, tenacity, and valiant bravery of the Black American troops and Airmen. The first or second generation immigrant from Italy, Greece, Ireland, Poland, Germany, France, etc.

The term white is but a fictional construction for the divide and / or conquer to control - we're all human beings with innate gifts, talents, and abilities.

The insidious ideology of a white christian nationalism is a "farce in itself" only because it will become a reversion back to, and of the medieval times in Europe where the Catholic battled the Baptist, or the Protestant.( there are so many practices and versions of Christianity )

It is only a matter of time before the denominations revert back to those "skirmishes of old for hierarchy, for recognition, for power, for control"... just like -

The French, Scottish, English, and Spaniard were always warring with one another before they decided to corrupt, corrode, rape, pillage and plunder the rest of the globe with colonization and imperialism on other shores.

When most other continental nations had traveled the globe they traveled for commerce to trade, to teach, to bring goods and services, not to kill off its people take over and never go home - seemingly its usually the European nations and persons that managed to become mastered in that art of corruption and or destruction of humanity.

Vel Santic's avatar

Correct!!

As to the colonization and imperialism of more recent decades and now especially - it is terrorist putin's-fsb-gru-kgb russia that is the main evil in this world. Anyone collaborating with the regime of russia, is also like mussolini's italy and imperial japan of WW2 in axis of evil with hitler's nazi germany of those times. In these times that is terrorist putin's russia. Tomorrow's day of his slave d.j. tRump's surrender of USA to terrorist putin's russia marks the most ominous point in contemporary history of the world.