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L.D.Michaels's avatar

I'm shocked that Trump didn't try to pin his 2020 loss on the Martians.

Annette's avatar

I’ll go with China for $300

Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

China is not our friend. I am not a fan of Trump but just because you do not like Trump has nothing to do with China. They are not related.

PRA's avatar

No they r not

The real test is to fact check him

It’s not like this info is new news

ajay ess's avatar

i agree that it is stupid to link a whole country of 1 billion people to everything we hate...

it is def stupid to link a national government to human emotions of friendship, ....unless if the majority of people in a country that have 'free and fair' elections actually vote for the government in power (like in israel and usa), then you can't make all the people of the country complicit with the government (as in china and putin-rigged-russia)

reality check........

no country government is our 'friend'....it is always about quid pro quo.

there is no 'blood brothers' or BFF in nation states.

china is the 2nd biggest economy in the world - they want to dominate the world the way usa has done for decades - we did really bad things to manipulate countries (chile/cuba/vietnam etc etc etc) so it stands to reason that people in other countries don't want to be friends with a nation where 88mill people voted to elect a lying corrupt rapist racist fascist criminal called trump.

all i'm saying is that the country we live in is as bad as china/russia/venezuela etc

we do not have the moral high ground at all.... especially with the self serving useless politicians that we are asked to vote for....

Elena Freshman Schumann's avatar

I was not commenting on the USA, I WAS commenting on China. I disagree with your thesis. I as an individual who believes in right and wrong can critic any government where ever it is located. Whatever bad things the USA, does, or Russia does, or Israel does, DOES not let CHINA OFF THE HOOK. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!! IF ONE IS NOT SAFE, THEN NOONE IS SAFE. I do not care if China has 100 Billion people, I have the right to critic their government no matter how many people they have. THE BAD BEHAVIOR OF THE USA IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO LET CHINA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY GET AWAY WITH DOING WRONG. China is particulary deserving of critic due to their current ongoing genocide of their Islamic population which the Islamic governments in the middle east IGNORE!!! WHY? I guess Islamic in the middle east only care about Arab's being persecuted, they do not care about people who are ethnically Chineese. I care about every single human being. IF ONE IS NOT SAFE THAN NO ONE IS SAFE!!

ajay ess's avatar

OMG i should’ve guessed that you would go off your rocker (again)…but seriously, your pro israel and anti islam rants are verrrrrrry tiresome and not well thought through….

so, EVERY country in the world is bad and deserves your critic(que) - big deal, i agree with you (surprise surprise), but at least be realistic and leave out your penchant for bias.

i guess it’s time to say GOODBYE before you do your usual simplistic ‘thing’ and raise everyone’s blood pressure.

Raquel Benadda's avatar

He’s blaming China what a liar

Todd Legando's avatar

Grab your diaper and shit with the king

Seti's avatar

Did we actually elect trump or did HE RIG the last election??

Monte Hickmon's avatar

Rigged muskrat manipulated just enough votes to change the outcome but not enough to trigger a mandatory recount through starlink as there is no way he legitimately won all 7 swing states which hasn't been done in 40 years

Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

He didn't have to "rig the last election." He had all the support he needed: the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United decision, the corporate consolidation of media, the end of the Fairness Doctrine under Reagan, and especially the racism and ignorance of so much of the U.S. electorate.

Seti's avatar

Hmmm. “Racism and ignorance,” you say. Then did Obama rig the election?

Teri's avatar

Thanks to all three of you, Joy, Lev and Waj. I don't think I've ever heard so much BS!!! Voting machines could be vulnerable - Musk took advantage of that for the 2024 election, and Trump was heard commenting on his 'talent with voting machines" and thanking him. If he was so concerned about the 2020 election why has he waited so long to address it? He had no concerns, knowing he would "win' in 2024, He's showing his hand and has pretty much made clear his intent. This seems to me like good evidence to warrant beginning to arrange defense plans with cooperation from National Guard and/or whoever-whatever would be appropriate. Unfortunately the not so supreme court has made it impossible to arrest him as anyone else would be. But I would think it would "hold water" that he was in office at the time. So that could also be taken as a warning that his administration (and many of the same people in the White House) are likely to do it again. And nobody else has immunity, Doesn't anyone else find it odd that in 2024 Trump"won" in all swing states?

Strong_Girl_RN's avatar

I didn’t watch him. I watched a movie. A much better way to spend my time.

Teri's avatar

Thank you Joy, Lev and Waj. I fully expect Trump to sic ICE goons on voters and hope governors, who can request National Guard assistance are prepared to do so.

Jay Vee's avatar

So by trump’s lies and logic, his 2024 election is also stolen and he is an illegal illegitimate president. Ok legal experts take that as a bullet point in your lawsuits starting tonight.

ajay ess's avatar

if only we could believe/trust that the dems will prosecute everything.....

i would like an army of class action and personal injury lawyers to prosecute everybody who has made money due to the corruption of the trump family, the trump mafia, and the putin-style-rubber-stamp-rapepugnican congress..... but they won't prosecute their congressional mates because they are all corrupt and criminals on the congressional gravy train...

we want billions reclaimed and put back into the people's bank

we want new jails built (with zero comfort) for all the slime bags in trumps orbit.

Joni Raymond's avatar

Thank you all. We MUST win elections by HUGE margins despite any of his shenanigans and outright stealing of elections. He CANNOT be allowed to nationalize elections.

carol light's avatar

I had him bankrupting the U.S.

johanna hays's avatar

I am much more afraid of Trump’s possible actions than anything China might do.

Laurie Stricks's avatar

We are so appreciative about the role of Independent Media and the heaving lifting that you all are doing, and at risk to yourselves

carol light's avatar

Rob Sand for governor of Iowa! Let’s go blue Iowa!!!

Vivi Survivor's avatar

Fabulous, Joy and the rest!