As a Black, Muslim woman, Rep. Ilhan Omar has become the favorite target of Trump & MAGA, who have doubled down on Islamophobia to distract from their failures. Well, Somalis clap back with a smile.
Republicans don't dare to criticize the headwear or robes of Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) or the Yamaka worn by Jewish men like Representative Randy Fine, or the turban worn by Prime Minister Modi. Why can't they see the hypocrisy of demeaning Representative Ilhan Omar for her turban or hijab? It is despicable that powerful elected leaders like Trump and MTG are applauded for their hateful bigotry. Representative Omar is correct that if they engaged in this conduct on a school playground, they would be suspended! I am horrified and ashamed to be an American.
Not to mention the Red m a g g a hats worn by their white supremicist cult to cover pattern baldness, empty heads, bankrupt souls, and hateful thoughts...
This white lady has never had any feelings for him but disgust, being appalled by him, shame for what he has done to women, immigrants, people of color. He has always been a con-man, coward, repulsive. Robbing our country blind, tax-dodger, thief, felon, and I could go on…….
So obviously guilty of raping, molesting and physically beating minors, and young women. He said he’s so turned on by his daughter that he would date her if he weren’t her father. Nothing has ever stopped him from raping, children and adults. He’s an American terrorist, with no emotional capabilities. Is there nothing we can do to hold him accountable for totally ignoring the constitution and destroying American democracy. This is science fiction.
As a retired white woman I have been repulsed by Trump and his ilk since the 80’s. I can’t comprehend why any self respecting person would want to support him EVER.
I respect everything you say, but regarding Hillary, I have to take issue: I do not believe she lost because she is a woman. I think she lost because a) she exemplifies everything the corporate democrat stands for b) she is haughty and c) my biggest reason: she stole the primary from Bernie. Her DNC absolutely screwed with polling stations--closing them after telling her voters to mail in their ballots. The news gave Bernie zero coverage (he probably turned YouTube into our "go to" place for getting news now, but it still had some glitches in '16) and the mainstream media--which we all agree is biased an sucks--ignored Bernie. WE. DIDN'T. LIKE. HER. Comey's choice to investigate her emails (how trivial does that seem today) so close to the election also cost her votes. And Cambridge Analytics/Zuckerberg let Trump manipulage new voter date to run a giant disinformation campaign (when people were too ignorant to realize social media is a misinformation hub.
Benghazi was a right wing false flag, one of many such attempting to take Hillary down. If you don't believe me, google it. Here's the beginning of the rebuttal:
"Multiple investigations into the 2012 attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, found no evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton, supporting the conclusion that accusations against her were largely determined to be unfounded and politically motivated. "
What I found troubling was her pandering to Israel (unfortunately, not all that unusual), and her corporate links [But let's face it, they aren't half as bad as those for most republicans, and they're "the rule" for every democrat whom the party's kingmakers allow to go forth.].
Bernie is an advocate for all things Americans care about, however, Bernie is no policy maker or, I believe someone who understands all that government must take into account. Hilary, like her or not, really has a strong grasp on the workings of government. She is brilliant but never really had a chance. She was overlooked for the wrong reasons.
It’s unclear to me why you invoke Epstein’s sex trafficking and the involvement of high-level white men in his operations as an example of “white supremacy,” which you list before “misogyny.” Both the perpetrators and the victims appear thus far to be white.
And you refer specifically only to the votes of white women in general
in your analysis of election bias. But what’s most interesting to me is the significant gender gap in the support of the two parties, with men in every cohort, regardless of race or ethnicity, voting for Republicans by at least 10 percentage points over women. Also, focusing only on the 2024 election (based on Edison exit polls), the only cohort of white women by age to have voted for Trump over Harris is the 45-64 year-old cohort, in other words, the middle-agers. White women 65 and older voted overwhelmingly for Harris. (So much for trashing of the baby boomers that we often see in election analyses). College-educated white women and women “with no religious affiliation” also voted overwhelmingly for Harris, the latter cohort by 80%. White women with no college education and those with affiliation with religion (a cohort looked at in the Edison polls), voted for Trump by around 52%.
So maybe we should focus more on men in general than white women in particular, given that men are more likely than women to have voted for Trump regardless of race or ethnicity. What you call “misogyny,” a word that may well fit, I would probably call patriarchy. And religious affiliation, at least among white women, but probably across all groups, seems to favor Republicanism as well as misogyny or patriarchy. Is anyone surprised by this? I have seen other articles that blame Trump’s win on white women, and that also blame his election on out of touch white baby boomers. Maybe the authors of those articles are betraying a bit of bias of their own. Perhaps we ought to start focusing on the role that patriarchy plays in election outcomes, and the role that religion plays in patriarchy. That examination happened to some extent in the late sixties, you know, by those baby boomers.
I don't believe that any of the three speakers mean to downplay the misogyny involved, but rather to remind us that yes, white supremacy is very much at play also.
Even though the vast majority of the girl victims were white, it does to me still suggest white supremacy in that those criminal men were all white [it was a white man's exclusive club], and that even though there's so much evidence available, those white men so far are still getting by without any actual investigation.
Finally, if you've been paying attention (I don't mean to sound sarcastic), culturally, the most unacceptable crime against women in USA is that done against beautiful, young, white women and is "always" done by non-white men [In the Deep South, black men would routinely get lynched over the mere suggestion, but whatever they did against black women was still never a concern.]. Seeing these white men getting away so easily with their crimes against our culture's "sacred cows" in itself smacks of white supremacy [and rich white man's privilege].
Rich white MEN’S privilege. White women know that the perception of our “supremacy” is laughable. Should we apologize because there are others even more discriminated against than we are? We’ve had to fight for every right we’ve ever gotten in this society, only to be forced to start all over again in 2025, thanks to MAGA and its primary cohort of RICH WHITE MEN, the true enemy of all disenfranchised people in America.
I wasn't suggesting white women need to apologize (assuming they voted against Trump... if they voted for him or skipped voting, yes they need to apologize).
I do wonder if you and Nancy are over-focussing on the assaults on women to the point of ignoring the larger picture. While it's true that women may have been more under assault than any other demographic/ sex continuously since Ronald Reagan, don't forget that so has everyone else. It's not smart of you to ignore/ downplay everyone else's problems just because you think you are catching the worst of it.
My point was the elevation of “white supremacy” over “misogyny” in a discussion of the Epstein matter. I don’t disagree with any of your points, except that misogyny, of course, is not limited to white men. It seems to do quite well across all racial and ethnic groups.
[But in India, it reaches levels even the most toxic American men don't fathom. It's cultural tradition (now illegal thankfully, yet still practiced) for a woman who rejects a man's advances to have acid thrown unnexpectedly on her face, disfiguring her for life.]
Women have been mistreated for centuries and now are being blamed for young men feeling bad about themselves…Also, births are down due to many not wanting to leave their careers for marriage or rearing children alone…women have choices-finally.
Exactly right. As a lifelong leftist, it gets extremely tiresome to see white women continually blamed for trump’s “winning” elections. We’re ignoring the high likelihood that Musk provided the most recent “victory” via computer machinations, as Putin likely did in 2016. Very possibly trump never actually “won” with a majority of the votes (we KNOW he didn’t in 2016), but cheated his way into the white house as he cheated at everything else he ever did.
Trump represents the highest form of avarice and wealth fetish. He is the scum bucket of free-market capitalism. Through him (and because of him), his hand picked cadre can shoot their load..over and over. Excuse my assessment if its vulgar...because this is a disgusting reality.
We've seen over and over that the "free market" is just a myth. The "free market" isn't allowed to destroy failed capitalists [We couldn't allow the mega banks to be ruined by their over-speculation in risky stocks; the American auto industry cannot go down despite decades of ignoring what customers actually desired.].
Our government/ politicians have demonstrated repeatedly that for top capitalists, it's protective socialism [when they need it]; for the masses, it's the harsh unforgiveness and *obscene* inequality of capitalism all the way.
Ilhan Omar is an amazing woman. Like AOC, she is gorgeous, super intelligent, and deeply progressive in her views. Unlike AOC, she's black and muslim. Those last two things alone are the reason why she isn't as universally popular as AOC (Of course, she'll always be a "rock star" to us progressives!).
I'm an old 85 your old white guy. I love Representative Omar. She is a powerhouse elected representative. Makes me proud to think someone with such compassion and charisma is in Washington, DC representing all of us. Omar is inspiring.
I'm very glad you had Rep. Omar on your show. I don't watch corporate media so I don't know if any of them have had her on and her comebacks to tRUMP. It was good to hear from her! And YES MTG has NOT changed. People don't change their spots overnight like she supposedly has. And showing that A _ _ hole Fine! He is disgusting! I agree he should be ousted. He is the perfect example of who we do NOT want representing us.
Oh look, it's Randy Fein, attempting to guide legislation [as a member of our religious separation government] wearing his tiny hat. [That's inappropriate... duh!]
-I notice that those who sport the tiny hats the most... such as Ben Shapiro... are always the biggest a-holes.
Republicans don't dare to criticize the headwear or robes of Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) or the Yamaka worn by Jewish men like Representative Randy Fine, or the turban worn by Prime Minister Modi. Why can't they see the hypocrisy of demeaning Representative Ilhan Omar for her turban or hijab? It is despicable that powerful elected leaders like Trump and MTG are applauded for their hateful bigotry. Representative Omar is correct that if they engaged in this conduct on a school playground, they would be suspended! I am horrified and ashamed to be an American.
Also being the ignorant ass hats that they are, they fail to realize that a turban is nothing like a hijab, which isn't what Ilhan wears either.
Not to mention the Red m a g g a hats worn by their white supremicist cult to cover pattern baldness, empty heads, bankrupt souls, and hateful thoughts...
You said it, Juliette…All so despicable.
This white lady has never had any feelings for him but disgust, being appalled by him, shame for what he has done to women, immigrants, people of color. He has always been a con-man, coward, repulsive. Robbing our country blind, tax-dodger, thief, felon, and I could go on…….
You’re absolutely right, Danielle - WAR ON WOMEN!!!
So obviously guilty of raping, molesting and physically beating minors, and young women. He said he’s so turned on by his daughter that he would date her if he weren’t her father. Nothing has ever stopped him from raping, children and adults. He’s an American terrorist, with no emotional capabilities. Is there nothing we can do to hold him accountable for totally ignoring the constitution and destroying American democracy. This is science fiction.
As a retired white woman I have been repulsed by Trump and his ilk since the 80’s. I can’t comprehend why any self respecting person would want to support him EVER.
I respect everything you say, but regarding Hillary, I have to take issue: I do not believe she lost because she is a woman. I think she lost because a) she exemplifies everything the corporate democrat stands for b) she is haughty and c) my biggest reason: she stole the primary from Bernie. Her DNC absolutely screwed with polling stations--closing them after telling her voters to mail in their ballots. The news gave Bernie zero coverage (he probably turned YouTube into our "go to" place for getting news now, but it still had some glitches in '16) and the mainstream media--which we all agree is biased an sucks--ignored Bernie. WE. DIDN'T. LIKE. HER. Comey's choice to investigate her emails (how trivial does that seem today) so close to the election also cost her votes. And Cambridge Analytics/Zuckerberg let Trump manipulage new voter date to run a giant disinformation campaign (when people were too ignorant to realize social media is a misinformation hub.
My sentiments exactly. Lifelong dem, but I never have liked her for all your reasons.
Another huge factor: her baggage. She was the stand-up wife of Clinton, whom the repugs HATED WITH FURY.
WHY tf nominate the person who had SO MUCH against her, rather than get behind the guy that had the hearts of the PEOPLE?
CORPORATE MONEY.
Our system is just so fucked up.
So Fucked. Up. And getting worse (MAGA needs to change to MAMA: Make America Mafia Aligned).
I agree. I am born and raised in New York and Its not about "liking" her. I didn't TRUST her. Especially after Benghazi.
Benghazi was a right wing false flag, one of many such attempting to take Hillary down. If you don't believe me, google it. Here's the beginning of the rebuttal:
"Multiple investigations into the 2012 attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya, found no evidence of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton, supporting the conclusion that accusations against her were largely determined to be unfounded and politically motivated. "
What I found troubling was her pandering to Israel (unfortunately, not all that unusual), and her corporate links [But let's face it, they aren't half as bad as those for most republicans, and they're "the rule" for every democrat whom the party's kingmakers allow to go forth.].
Bernie is an advocate for all things Americans care about, however, Bernie is no policy maker or, I believe someone who understands all that government must take into account. Hilary, like her or not, really has a strong grasp on the workings of government. She is brilliant but never really had a chance. She was overlooked for the wrong reasons.
It’s terrible that people put others down
Hillary Clinton made Bill on the couch for 3+ months after the Monica deal!!!
Your comment sounds funny but I don't understand the meaning [Typo?].
"...made Bill on the couch..."
-OK... now I think I get it... you meant "made Bill *sleep* on the couch..".
- Somehow, I have her pegged as the frigid type who does that to him routinely... or if they share the same bed, there's still no contact.
It’s unclear to me why you invoke Epstein’s sex trafficking and the involvement of high-level white men in his operations as an example of “white supremacy,” which you list before “misogyny.” Both the perpetrators and the victims appear thus far to be white.
And you refer specifically only to the votes of white women in general
in your analysis of election bias. But what’s most interesting to me is the significant gender gap in the support of the two parties, with men in every cohort, regardless of race or ethnicity, voting for Republicans by at least 10 percentage points over women. Also, focusing only on the 2024 election (based on Edison exit polls), the only cohort of white women by age to have voted for Trump over Harris is the 45-64 year-old cohort, in other words, the middle-agers. White women 65 and older voted overwhelmingly for Harris. (So much for trashing of the baby boomers that we often see in election analyses). College-educated white women and women “with no religious affiliation” also voted overwhelmingly for Harris, the latter cohort by 80%. White women with no college education and those with affiliation with religion (a cohort looked at in the Edison polls), voted for Trump by around 52%.
So maybe we should focus more on men in general than white women in particular, given that men are more likely than women to have voted for Trump regardless of race or ethnicity. What you call “misogyny,” a word that may well fit, I would probably call patriarchy. And religious affiliation, at least among white women, but probably across all groups, seems to favor Republicanism as well as misogyny or patriarchy. Is anyone surprised by this? I have seen other articles that blame Trump’s win on white women, and that also blame his election on out of touch white baby boomers. Maybe the authors of those articles are betraying a bit of bias of their own. Perhaps we ought to start focusing on the role that patriarchy plays in election outcomes, and the role that religion plays in patriarchy. That examination happened to some extent in the late sixties, you know, by those baby boomers.
All good points you make here.
I don't believe that any of the three speakers mean to downplay the misogyny involved, but rather to remind us that yes, white supremacy is very much at play also.
Even though the vast majority of the girl victims were white, it does to me still suggest white supremacy in that those criminal men were all white [it was a white man's exclusive club], and that even though there's so much evidence available, those white men so far are still getting by without any actual investigation.
Finally, if you've been paying attention (I don't mean to sound sarcastic), culturally, the most unacceptable crime against women in USA is that done against beautiful, young, white women and is "always" done by non-white men [In the Deep South, black men would routinely get lynched over the mere suggestion, but whatever they did against black women was still never a concern.]. Seeing these white men getting away so easily with their crimes against our culture's "sacred cows" in itself smacks of white supremacy [and rich white man's privilege].
Rich white MEN’S privilege. White women know that the perception of our “supremacy” is laughable. Should we apologize because there are others even more discriminated against than we are? We’ve had to fight for every right we’ve ever gotten in this society, only to be forced to start all over again in 2025, thanks to MAGA and its primary cohort of RICH WHITE MEN, the true enemy of all disenfranchised people in America.
I wasn't suggesting white women need to apologize (assuming they voted against Trump... if they voted for him or skipped voting, yes they need to apologize).
I do wonder if you and Nancy are over-focussing on the assaults on women to the point of ignoring the larger picture. While it's true that women may have been more under assault than any other demographic/ sex continuously since Ronald Reagan, don't forget that so has everyone else. It's not smart of you to ignore/ downplay everyone else's problems just because you think you are catching the worst of it.
My point was the elevation of “white supremacy” over “misogyny” in a discussion of the Epstein matter. I don’t disagree with any of your points, except that misogyny, of course, is not limited to white men. It seems to do quite well across all racial and ethnic groups.
Sure does!
[But in India, it reaches levels even the most toxic American men don't fathom. It's cultural tradition (now illegal thankfully, yet still practiced) for a woman who rejects a man's advances to have acid thrown unnexpectedly on her face, disfiguring her for life.]
Women have been mistreated for centuries and now are being blamed for young men feeling bad about themselves…Also, births are down due to many not wanting to leave their careers for marriage or rearing children alone…women have choices-finally.
It was elevated such in *this* discussion. That's because the white supremacy aspect isn't discussed anywhere else, even as a side note.
Exactly right. As a lifelong leftist, it gets extremely tiresome to see white women continually blamed for trump’s “winning” elections. We’re ignoring the high likelihood that Musk provided the most recent “victory” via computer machinations, as Putin likely did in 2016. Very possibly trump never actually “won” with a majority of the votes (we KNOW he didn’t in 2016), but cheated his way into the white house as he cheated at everything else he ever did.
Trump represents the highest form of avarice and wealth fetish. He is the scum bucket of free-market capitalism. Through him (and because of him), his hand picked cadre can shoot their load..over and over. Excuse my assessment if its vulgar...because this is a disgusting reality.
We've seen over and over that the "free market" is just a myth. The "free market" isn't allowed to destroy failed capitalists [We couldn't allow the mega banks to be ruined by their over-speculation in risky stocks; the American auto industry cannot go down despite decades of ignoring what customers actually desired.].
Our government/ politicians have demonstrated repeatedly that for top capitalists, it's protective socialism [when they need it]; for the masses, it's the harsh unforgiveness and *obscene* inequality of capitalism all the way.
Ilhan Omar is an amazing woman. Like AOC, she is gorgeous, super intelligent, and deeply progressive in her views. Unlike AOC, she's black and muslim. Those last two things alone are the reason why she isn't as universally popular as AOC (Of course, she'll always be a "rock star" to us progressives!).
I'm an old 85 your old white guy. I love Representative Omar. She is a powerhouse elected representative. Makes me proud to think someone with such compassion and charisma is in Washington, DC representing all of us. Omar is inspiring.
I'm very glad you had Rep. Omar on your show. I don't watch corporate media so I don't know if any of them have had her on and her comebacks to tRUMP. It was good to hear from her! And YES MTG has NOT changed. People don't change their spots overnight like she supposedly has. And showing that A _ _ hole Fine! He is disgusting! I agree he should be ousted. He is the perfect example of who we do NOT want representing us.
Oh look, it's Randy Fein, attempting to guide legislation [as a member of our religious separation government] wearing his tiny hat. [That's inappropriate... duh!]
-I notice that those who sport the tiny hats the most... such as Ben Shapiro... are always the biggest a-holes.
Yes Chris VanHolland did his job and did show his colleagues how it is done. Trump is a cancer it is incurable
Thank you Left Hook
I would love to see Representative Omar as President.
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