Usha Vance joins a growing chorus of South Asian Republicans willing to serve as enforcers of white supremacy and use their brown skin to launder MAGA’s racism just to achieve power.
Firstly, Usha Vance’s and Vivek Ramaswamy’s support of a supremacist MAGA is entirely understandable from the viewpoint of the Brahmin caste within Hinduism of which Usha is definitely a member and I assume Ramaswamy is too. They are taught from birth that they are born innately superior to all others over whom they have the responsibility and privilege to rule.
Secondly, the British Empire’s rulership of India created a ruling class of like minded colonialists by working closely with the Hindu Brahmins. The last Prime Minister of the UK Rishi Sunak was married to a very high caste Brahmin whose father is closely allied with India’s present Hindu extremist leader Narendra Modi. He was responsible for introducing anti immigrant and racist legislation. This kind of Internalised colonialist worldview in people of colour is perhaps more common in the ruling class of the still class bound monarchist UK than in the US.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions abt her background, behaviour & support for that man. Remember he married her in 2014, met Thiel, then turned RW. Before that reports are that he was a human being! Since her family in India are in high positions in academia, I figured they must be of a higher caste. Seems like he was under some very highly-privileged influence at the time that poisoned him. “Sad”
Ramaswamy definitely is a Brahmin. He is a Palghat Iyer, the ones who consider themselves cream of the creamiest Tamil Brahmins. (I don’t understand the TamBrahms joking and jostling amongst themselves about who is better, who is not). There is a sycophantic “journalistic” interview on YouTube with Ramaswamy’s parents by a Palghat Iyer reporter from India.
Thanks. I thought he displayed the telltale hallmarks. The jostling for top place as the elite of the elite is a commonplace behaviour tick amongst self defined gentry 🐈⬛💙
So interesting. There’s a series of Oprah podcasts on the book Caste. In one of the discussions, and East Indian young man who was a ‘high’ caste in India describes his severe depression after coming to the United States and losing ‘class’ status, he was extremely suicidal until he started to understand ‘privilege/caste’ but then they return to India where he ‘automatically’ has caste status again, and he realizes, even with his new enlightenment and understanding, he actually enjoys his ‘privilege’ and doesn’t really want to give it up.
Low-caste white goys like you should stick to Christianity. It is pretty cringe when losers like you think you are expert on other cultures after reading couple of wikipedia pages.
May I add another reeking layer to this lasagne of these people's self-loathing by pointing out that Usha stands by as her bigot man seeks to disembody women and hamstring their personal autonomy? What the hell, lady?
Yeah, these people should know better, which makes their complicity all the more insidious. I guess they sold their souls to the devil at the same time as the "Gays for Trump" and "Blacks for Trump" crowd. 🤦🏼♀️😒
We’ve watched this movie before. . . . . She’s going to get a hella wake-up call to remind her of that Faustian bargain. Everything Trump touches self destructs.
I have wondered how a clever woman like Usha Vance could put up with the MAGA nonsense. But like Peter Thiel she must view it as a way to manifest her will to power. She has known about it for years, I presume. If I were in her shoes, I would be very worried about my parents. Two degrees of separation is not much protection from extremists. What must the mother, a biology professor, think of her son-in-laws plans for post-menstrual women?
Anne Coulter is wrong. The new in thing is to be a kind of crypto-Catholic . It is all the rage with Christian Nationalist politicians. Vance converted yet again five years ago.
If this were Nazi Germany, Usha and her kids would not be tolerated no matter who Vance was. I hope she is ready to watch the great deportation.
I mis-type all the time. Sigh. Yes, I know Vance got himself baptized into this weird sect or whatever of Catholicism. Why Catholicism I wonder? Perhaps because of its stiff patriarchal structure? Only men make decisions? I guess Protestantism isn’t sufficiently rule based these days.Of course Putin, who must have at least claimed to be an atheist when he was in the KGB, is now rolling out all the Orthodox Patriarchs to back him in public. I suppose there is a certain historical solidity to those branches of organized religion. Perhaps people adapt more readily to a familiar system.
Maybe it’s just a version of the common place ‘arranged’ marriages in that caste system of her ancestry. I kid, she clerked for two soulless scotus justices. She, like Haley will do and say anything to keep relevance in any place that pays off.
It is devastating. I don’t like to discover people are venal. But she should beware. MAGA won’t give her or her kids a pass. They could cause real harm. Maybe JD says he has it under control, but she must know better. MAGA people crush everything in their path when they go wild.
If you haven’t looked at a summary of the oppo research on Vance, and with caveat from another substacker, it did come from Iran, but a lot of it is stuff we knew, but it really makes interesting reading. Another excellent article I restocked goes through Trump’s statements and actions z(.if any) for COVID. I remember him reassuring us it was only a tiny bunny as Monty Python would say, when in fact it was a full blown pandemic.
The wife is quite the whore, isn't she. The average hooker anywhere in the world is due more respect than the likes of Usha Vance. I would argue that they posses the dignity that Vance has none of as well. As for Nikki Haley & Vivek Ramaswamy, they make three.
as my child lay in the trauma care unit receiving blood transfusions, it didn’t ever occur to me to consider the ethnicity of the donors. we All bleed red.
Absolutely right. Power corrupts and some people get so blinded that color does not seem to matter in that moment - I feel sad for her parents - I don’t give fuck about what happens to her - May she go down just like clad Vance and Agolf shitler
Self hating people of color are a sad product of many racist environmental elements. Makes me think of the White/Color Doll test where POCs in different parts of the world where children still pick the white doll. It was used as a proof to show the negative psychological effects of separate but not equal segregation/education during the Brown Vs Board of Education SCOTUS case that desegregated Jim Crow era public schools in USA way back in the 1950s! The good irony in this story is that Kamala Harris - who is part Indian, already VP-will be the next president and this sad pathetic Usha Vance and her loser weirdo husband will end up in the dust bin of history where they belong.
Well, this is no different than some of the "higher caste" folks in India who are willing to rub shoulders with anyone that preaches supremacy within the Hindu nationalist movement. I would say that these folks have the same idea here in the U.S. The only difference being that the MAGA elites (there's a misnomer) will not give two shits about them if they come to power. I still cannot get over how Vivek stood there with a straight face while Ann Coulter told him that she could not vote for him because of his brown skin. Vivek's tag lie should be "What can Brown do for you?"
Also, in the photo you included in this piece, the look on the man's face directly behind Usha begs a question. I wonder what that guy was thinking when that image was made.
Firstly, Usha Vance’s and Vivek Ramaswamy’s support of a supremacist MAGA is entirely understandable from the viewpoint of the Brahmin caste within Hinduism of which Usha is definitely a member and I assume Ramaswamy is too. They are taught from birth that they are born innately superior to all others over whom they have the responsibility and privilege to rule.
Secondly, the British Empire’s rulership of India created a ruling class of like minded colonialists by working closely with the Hindu Brahmins. The last Prime Minister of the UK Rishi Sunak was married to a very high caste Brahmin whose father is closely allied with India’s present Hindu extremist leader Narendra Modi. He was responsible for introducing anti immigrant and racist legislation. This kind of Internalised colonialist worldview in people of colour is perhaps more common in the ruling class of the still class bound monarchist UK than in the US.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions abt her background, behaviour & support for that man. Remember he married her in 2014, met Thiel, then turned RW. Before that reports are that he was a human being! Since her family in India are in high positions in academia, I figured they must be of a higher caste. Seems like he was under some very highly-privileged influence at the time that poisoned him. “Sad”
He was obviously very, very susceptible to being influenced by people who could get him power.
Ramaswamy definitely is a Brahmin. He is a Palghat Iyer, the ones who consider themselves cream of the creamiest Tamil Brahmins. (I don’t understand the TamBrahms joking and jostling amongst themselves about who is better, who is not). There is a sycophantic “journalistic” interview on YouTube with Ramaswamy’s parents by a Palghat Iyer reporter from India.
Thanks. I thought he displayed the telltale hallmarks. The jostling for top place as the elite of the elite is a commonplace behaviour tick amongst self defined gentry 🐈⬛💙
yes just more blood and soil bigoted hate, topped off with self loathing. Spicy sauce.
So interesting. There’s a series of Oprah podcasts on the book Caste. In one of the discussions, and East Indian young man who was a ‘high’ caste in India describes his severe depression after coming to the United States and losing ‘class’ status, he was extremely suicidal until he started to understand ‘privilege/caste’ but then they return to India where he ‘automatically’ has caste status again, and he realizes, even with his new enlightenment and understanding, he actually enjoys his ‘privilege’ and doesn’t really want to give it up.
This exactly.
Low-caste white goys like you should stick to Christianity. It is pretty cringe when losers like you think you are expert on other cultures after reading couple of wikipedia pages.
https://h1bpajeet.substack.com/p/low-caste-whites-should-stick-to
May I add another reeking layer to this lasagne of these people's self-loathing by pointing out that Usha stands by as her bigot man seeks to disembody women and hamstring their personal autonomy? What the hell, lady?
Great writing Waj! 👏🏼
Yeah, these people should know better, which makes their complicity all the more insidious. I guess they sold their souls to the devil at the same time as the "Gays for Trump" and "Blacks for Trump" crowd. 🤦🏼♀️😒
Make it make sense. 🤷🏼♀️
We’ve watched this movie before. . . . . She’s going to get a hella wake-up call to remind her of that Faustian bargain. Everything Trump touches self destructs.
You forgot to mention Piyush "Bobby" Jindal - another whitewashed Indian and wannabe GOP Presidential candidate.
theres just so much time and so much space ;)
And Dinesh D’Souza.
Of course! Perhaps the most rabid of the lot.
Not to mention Ramadammadingdong, another famous Desi Nazi. 😀
I have wondered how a clever woman like Usha Vance could put up with the MAGA nonsense. But like Peter Thiel she must view it as a way to manifest her will to power. She has known about it for years, I presume. If I were in her shoes, I would be very worried about my parents. Two degrees of separation is not much protection from extremists. What must the mother, a biology professor, think of her son-in-laws plans for post-menstrual women?
Anne Coulter is wrong. The new in thing is to be a kind of crypto-Catholic . It is all the rage with Christian Nationalist politicians. Vance converted yet again five years ago.
If this were Nazi Germany, Usha and her kids would not be tolerated no matter who Vance was. I hope she is ready to watch the great deportation.
I think they convert to Catholicism because Taliban isn’t socially acceptable. Same eyeliner though.
The new in thing is to be a kind of crypto-Catholic
You misspelled Terrorist. 😳
I mis-type all the time. Sigh. Yes, I know Vance got himself baptized into this weird sect or whatever of Catholicism. Why Catholicism I wonder? Perhaps because of its stiff patriarchal structure? Only men make decisions? I guess Protestantism isn’t sufficiently rule based these days.Of course Putin, who must have at least claimed to be an atheist when he was in the KGB, is now rolling out all the Orthodox Patriarchs to back him in public. I suppose there is a certain historical solidity to those branches of organized religion. Perhaps people adapt more readily to a familiar system.
Maybe it’s just a version of the common place ‘arranged’ marriages in that caste system of her ancestry. I kid, she clerked for two soulless scotus justices. She, like Haley will do and say anything to keep relevance in any place that pays off.
It is devastating. I don’t like to discover people are venal. But she should beware. MAGA won’t give her or her kids a pass. They could cause real harm. Maybe JD says he has it under control, but she must know better. MAGA people crush everything in their path when they go wild.
If you haven’t looked at a summary of the oppo research on Vance, and with caveat from another substacker, it did come from Iran, but a lot of it is stuff we knew, but it really makes interesting reading. Another excellent article I restocked goes through Trump’s statements and actions z(.if any) for COVID. I remember him reassuring us it was only a tiny bunny as Monty Python would say, when in fact it was a full blown pandemic.
The wife is quite the whore, isn't she. The average hooker anywhere in the world is due more respect than the likes of Usha Vance. I would argue that they posses the dignity that Vance has none of as well. As for Nikki Haley & Vivek Ramaswamy, they make three.
Usha and Hillbilly Vanilli. American nightmare indeed.
Shillbilly
as my child lay in the trauma care unit receiving blood transfusions, it didn’t ever occur to me to consider the ethnicity of the donors. we All bleed red.
To Usha - RUN! NOW AND FAR AWAY! Pack up the kids and go as far as you can. Save yourself and them from the really horrible JD!
She's all in and is a willing accomplice.
Absolutely right. Power corrupts and some people get so blinded that color does not seem to matter in that moment - I feel sad for her parents - I don’t give fuck about what happens to her - May she go down just like clad Vance and Agolf shitler
I don't care, do you?
We don’t need three(3) kids like JD. Makes me think of “poisoning” the culture.
Self hating people of color are a sad product of many racist environmental elements. Makes me think of the White/Color Doll test where POCs in different parts of the world where children still pick the white doll. It was used as a proof to show the negative psychological effects of separate but not equal segregation/education during the Brown Vs Board of Education SCOTUS case that desegregated Jim Crow era public schools in USA way back in the 1950s! The good irony in this story is that Kamala Harris - who is part Indian, already VP-will be the next president and this sad pathetic Usha Vance and her loser weirdo husband will end up in the dust bin of history where they belong.
I would go a step further and suggest that Usha is the brains behind the operation.
Well, this is no different than some of the "higher caste" folks in India who are willing to rub shoulders with anyone that preaches supremacy within the Hindu nationalist movement. I would say that these folks have the same idea here in the U.S. The only difference being that the MAGA elites (there's a misnomer) will not give two shits about them if they come to power. I still cannot get over how Vivek stood there with a straight face while Ann Coulter told him that she could not vote for him because of his brown skin. Vivek's tag lie should be "What can Brown do for you?"
It's quite likely that the Hindutva/RSS lobby is involved with American MAGAlomania & other like-minded mobs...
https://theconversation.com/why-donald-trump-is-winning-over-many-american-hindus-67518
https://tif.ssrc.org/2022/10/12/hindutva-and-the-shared-scripts-of-the-global-right/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/modis-popularity-grows-india-hindu-nationalism-rising-us-rcna90680
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/17/donald-trump-hindu-nationalism-india
Also, in the photo you included in this piece, the look on the man's face directly behind Usha begs a question. I wonder what that guy was thinking when that image was made.
A necessary, brave and honest call out of blind subservience and cultural betrayal that runs deep in the Trump “camp.”