Instead of moving to the center, courting Liz Cheney, and welcoming bipartisanship, Democrats need to learn from grassroots movements in France and Brazil and fight back with a winning message.
Good question. I expect nothing from DNC and current dems. We must fight. We must organize and stop this abomination. We are the only ones who can. Organize, oppose, and revolt.
i agree we need to stand up and fight. most of the dems delicately tip toe around the hill so as to not enrage the fragile citrus-shaded beast. as danielle would say - miss me with that b.s.
hooray to those who care enough to make waves, stand up straight and resist…
that said, i wasn’t angry about liz. she did the right thing. she was braver than the majority of her colleagues. personally, i loathe cowards.
Wow! ASO! I was enthralled listening to her - erudite, engaging, funny. Anat absolutely convinced me of her expertise in political messaging and communication... and now I defo have to check out her podcast, especially for name-dropping Australia. 🙂🙏🏼💙
Kudos Waj - she's defo one of my favourites so far (and you've had some pretty stellar interview guests). 👏🏼👌🏼
MAGA is a promotional advertising term they named themselves. Why are you promoting them? Fundamentally, they are psychopathic neo-fascists. We must make them face up to what they are clinically: anti-social disorder of psychopathy; and name them correctly with their political ideology, neo-fascism We must start calling them with the pejorative name they have earned: psychopathic neo-fascists.
Great discussion thanks! You make a lot of sense saying that Dems can't drive the change to 'normal', and you've drawn from experience in other countries. Whether individuals feel angry enough or empowered enough to 'do something' is the big question. I get the impression American society has gone past that point - people have given up. The 'system' is too bent and hopeless. They didn’t care enough to get informed, or to vote, and why (and how) would they learn anything different now. They just get angry at their phones, stay home and kick the kids or their neighbour's pets. I hope I'm wrong, but The Empire's bombs have blown up its last smidgen of credibility with Gaza, and it isn't done with "peace through strength" (yeah, right) yet. Immigrants should bid to ICE for a free ride out of there!
Maybe if Kamala had made a point to attach Insane Clown to Project 25 and not just let his fake ignorance go unchallenged. Unfortunately Project 25 was one of several unspeakable forbidden words, among others such as Climate Crisis, LGBTQ, treason, immunity. Accepting the blame for inflation when the blame clearly lies with the pandemic and Insane Clown's clownish response was nothing short of political malpractice. Afghanistan where the blame lies clearly with Insane Clown's surrender in releasing 5,000 Taliban and drawing troop levels down from 13,000 to 2,500 and was prepared to order a mass exodus by year end 2020. Kamala did have some concrete economic proposals but Insane Clown shit all over them she's the incumbent why haven't they done it already. What worked in 2020 had nothing to do with anything Democrats did, but that everyone was sick of 4 years of Insane Clown's clowning culminating in the pandemic. To the point where Insane Clown pretty much threw the election preferring that a civil war be fought over him. Biden playing the empathy card established just enough of a presence (unlike Hillary's zero presence campaign in 2016).
As for immigration and border security I'm not sure your wall of food trucks would work. Yes we needed to stress that we are and want to remain a welcoming country but you have to address the security issue as well. I think a better way would be that we want to not close the border but to control it. And do it humanely unlike the Nazi Party for whom ethnic cleansing is a labor of love. To highlight not only the bipartisan bill that Insane Clown shitcanned but to point out the history of right wing intransigence on comprehensive immigration reform. Insane Clown's first term after shutting down the government a bill was presented to give him his stupid wall in exchange for DACA but at the last minute Nazi wannabe Stephen Miller told him to reject it. The 2013 Gang Of 8 bill that passed the Senate and would have passed the House had it been voted on.
Walz was no prize package either with his chorus line 123 kick and calling everyone weird everyone rejoiced that a star is born. That went downhill fast when he stepped in one pile of shit after another and then finally vanished once he called himself a knucklehead in the VP debate.
Kamala could have cut Insane Clown down to size instantly if she would have put the damn pom poms down and thrown a punch. That was the all important missing piece. Insane Clown throws punches non-stop hoping you will go into a defensive shell. One punch and Insane Clown would have gone down and stayed down. I told Kinzinger on his Substack July 26 shortly after Biden passed the torch to label him Father Of Presidential Immunity. That among many other things I told him but I hoped that he would at least run with that on CNN and make it go viral. Didn't happen. All we got from him and pretty much everyone (including you Waj) was pep talks. Now when we are out of ammunition and Insane Clown has all 3 branches and for good measure immunity and now a private militia, now everyone wants to fight. I have to laugh.
Worth your time! Listen up DNC. Harris was on the rt track w Walz and “weird” but when campaign shifted rt w Liz Cheney our base stayed home. Liz Cheney is a brave, sterling patriot, but didn’t bring us any more. a saw We R the Many. We can still win! The Many vs The Money! This was a great broadcast with much creative messaging!
The many vs the money. Our next mantra,
oooo I like this!!!!
Good question. I expect nothing from DNC and current dems. We must fight. We must organize and stop this abomination. We are the only ones who can. Organize, oppose, and revolt.
All the systems that stopped the funding processes were initiated and executed by a human. I want names and signing authorities. NOW.
I pay for it all and so do you.
i agree we need to stand up and fight. most of the dems delicately tip toe around the hill so as to not enrage the fragile citrus-shaded beast. as danielle would say - miss me with that b.s.
hooray to those who care enough to make waves, stand up straight and resist…
that said, i wasn’t angry about liz. she did the right thing. she was braver than the majority of her colleagues. personally, i loathe cowards.
Yes to dancing in the streets -- all ages, all cultures.
NEVER! The dems are too weak!
This is the first time I’ve been able to breathe this week. Brilliant guest and so much incredible information.
The lawyers are fighting back. Read about it here: https://kathleenweber.substack.com/p/our-first-big-win/comments
Wow! ASO! I was enthralled listening to her - erudite, engaging, funny. Anat absolutely convinced me of her expertise in political messaging and communication... and now I defo have to check out her podcast, especially for name-dropping Australia. 🙂🙏🏼💙
Kudos Waj - she's defo one of my favourites so far (and you've had some pretty stellar interview guests). 👏🏼👌🏼
Haven't listened yet, but thank you jesus for this intro. More spice please.
MAGA is a promotional advertising term they named themselves. Why are you promoting them? Fundamentally, they are psychopathic neo-fascists. We must make them face up to what they are clinically: anti-social disorder of psychopathy; and name them correctly with their political ideology, neo-fascism We must start calling them with the pejorative name they have earned: psychopathic neo-fascists.
This is what the majority of voters wanted so I think the Dems should not hinder the “Find Out” portion of the show. Patience, Grasshopper!
Great discussion thanks! You make a lot of sense saying that Dems can't drive the change to 'normal', and you've drawn from experience in other countries. Whether individuals feel angry enough or empowered enough to 'do something' is the big question. I get the impression American society has gone past that point - people have given up. The 'system' is too bent and hopeless. They didn’t care enough to get informed, or to vote, and why (and how) would they learn anything different now. They just get angry at their phones, stay home and kick the kids or their neighbour's pets. I hope I'm wrong, but The Empire's bombs have blown up its last smidgen of credibility with Gaza, and it isn't done with "peace through strength" (yeah, right) yet. Immigrants should bid to ICE for a free ride out of there!
Maybe if Kamala had made a point to attach Insane Clown to Project 25 and not just let his fake ignorance go unchallenged. Unfortunately Project 25 was one of several unspeakable forbidden words, among others such as Climate Crisis, LGBTQ, treason, immunity. Accepting the blame for inflation when the blame clearly lies with the pandemic and Insane Clown's clownish response was nothing short of political malpractice. Afghanistan where the blame lies clearly with Insane Clown's surrender in releasing 5,000 Taliban and drawing troop levels down from 13,000 to 2,500 and was prepared to order a mass exodus by year end 2020. Kamala did have some concrete economic proposals but Insane Clown shit all over them she's the incumbent why haven't they done it already. What worked in 2020 had nothing to do with anything Democrats did, but that everyone was sick of 4 years of Insane Clown's clowning culminating in the pandemic. To the point where Insane Clown pretty much threw the election preferring that a civil war be fought over him. Biden playing the empathy card established just enough of a presence (unlike Hillary's zero presence campaign in 2016).
As for immigration and border security I'm not sure your wall of food trucks would work. Yes we needed to stress that we are and want to remain a welcoming country but you have to address the security issue as well. I think a better way would be that we want to not close the border but to control it. And do it humanely unlike the Nazi Party for whom ethnic cleansing is a labor of love. To highlight not only the bipartisan bill that Insane Clown shitcanned but to point out the history of right wing intransigence on comprehensive immigration reform. Insane Clown's first term after shutting down the government a bill was presented to give him his stupid wall in exchange for DACA but at the last minute Nazi wannabe Stephen Miller told him to reject it. The 2013 Gang Of 8 bill that passed the Senate and would have passed the House had it been voted on.
Walz was no prize package either with his chorus line 123 kick and calling everyone weird everyone rejoiced that a star is born. That went downhill fast when he stepped in one pile of shit after another and then finally vanished once he called himself a knucklehead in the VP debate.
Kamala could have cut Insane Clown down to size instantly if she would have put the damn pom poms down and thrown a punch. That was the all important missing piece. Insane Clown throws punches non-stop hoping you will go into a defensive shell. One punch and Insane Clown would have gone down and stayed down. I told Kinzinger on his Substack July 26 shortly after Biden passed the torch to label him Father Of Presidential Immunity. That among many other things I told him but I hoped that he would at least run with that on CNN and make it go viral. Didn't happen. All we got from him and pretty much everyone (including you Waj) was pep talks. Now when we are out of ammunition and Insane Clown has all 3 branches and for good measure immunity and now a private militia, now everyone wants to fight. I have to laugh.
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Worth your time! Listen up DNC. Harris was on the rt track w Walz and “weird” but when campaign shifted rt w Liz Cheney our base stayed home. Liz Cheney is a brave, sterling patriot, but didn’t bring us any more. a saw We R the Many. We can still win! The Many vs The Money! This was a great broadcast with much creative messaging!